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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Feb 7, 2008 8:28am
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Song quality

I am clearing off the hard drive and it is full of songs that never went anywhere for various reasons. Bear with me, once these "filler" songs are done and removed from the drive, I will have enough space to finish the good stuff. I'd like to finish a song a day for the next week or two but I also need to earn a living.

I am also working on a few good songs as well and will insert them inbetween the lesser songs to keep moral high. We have survived numerous onslaughts and fended off trolls and vandals in the past year and there will be more songs about that as well. Our goal of 10,000 songs is attainable. Stay strong, our allies depend on us and our enemies fear us.

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Poster: Telephone Toughguy Date: Feb 7, 2008 2:34pm
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song quality

I can't wait. There were some good ones but some songs are not perfect so I suspect you are just a human. Path to sunshine needs a sequel, come on.

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Feb 7, 2008 7:21pm
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song quality

Yeah, did you see the top 10? Unfortunately people are also downloading the silly songs and the rando electronic songs I still haven't even listened to myself yet. After looking at the netlabel page and comparing download counts, we have a ways to go. We are only doing 1/10th the amount of downloads a day as some stuff, that well frankly speaking, is pretty basic and monotonous. There are things that sound like rehashed Atari Teenage Riot mixed with lamo goth and emo music.

We need to step it up a few notches, there is no reason for us not to have at least one item in the netlabel top 10. We can do better. So going forward here are some ideas:

1. Cutout the slop- I used to live and die by the one take track no matter what. That was stupid, we need to tweak and tweak our tracks till they are as close to perfect as they can be performance wise. That means keeping the guitars in tune, warming up the vocal cords, practicing the material, etc. I used to improvise everything and record it all, no more, we need polished tracks.

2. Mixwise- I have been in the habit of forcing sounds together that work in my head but do not translate well to the ear. Not everyone is like us and looks for the music in the sound. Not everyone says to themselves, hey I get what they are trying to do here. We need to do, not try. I need to make sure the tracks blend and for that I need maximum quality tracks, garbage in garbage out. Keep your levels hot but clip free. I need to use the EQ on the mixer and in the software better, learning more everyday.

3. Polishing- I rarely use the mastering software I have, sometimes I rerun the master tracks back through the multitrack software and use it's compression to raise the overall volume, that sucks. The compressor is great on individual tracks to a point then starts to distort, on mixes I notice the distortion immediately no matter how discreet the compression is. I also think we need to release multi file items with more consistent keywords (this is an area where we have seen progress) and item descriptions.

4. Advertising- We need to find another way besides myspace and these forums to get the word out. I have been looking into other sites of blogging, hosting and networking for easy ways to get traffic, any ideas would be helpful.

Maybe these 4 steps can put us remaining contributing musicians on the map and unlike the people I know who have made it somewhat in the music industry, I will remember and bring along whomever I can so we can all live full meaningful lives. I will not sit around with my new smug friends and act like the guys from Omnipresence, remember them?

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 8, 2008 5:30am
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song quality

Hey Collector, I hear Iko is a good source!!

Seriously though, do you ever use some of the old folk/blues stuff for your Noise? Stuff like this:
http://www.archive.org/details/Mother

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Feb 8, 2008 6:15pm
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song quality

I try to play most parts myself on keys, guitar or bass but I am working on a song that has some old jazz samples in it. This is cool stuff though, thanks!

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 12, 2008 9:37am
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song quality

There is a lot of the old blues - folk - jazz stuff out in open source. A bunch of recordings from 20's & 30's from some studios in NYC. Cool stuff, can spend hours upon hours in the open source section.

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Poster: Diana Hamilton Date: Feb 12, 2008 11:12am
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song age

I moved some of the really old stuff over to 78rpm collection yesterday. If you have a couple of pointers to more in OSA (doesn't have to be exhaustive, just some examples), I can get those over later too, if relevant. Thanks!

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Feb 12, 2008 11:23am
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song age

Cool, will definitely check them out, thanks

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Poster: Diana Hamilton Date: Feb 12, 2008 1:55pm
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song age

Of course, given the current state of the search engine, they may look from there like they're still in OSA. :/

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Poster: Telephone Toughguy Date: Feb 9, 2008 11:44am
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song quality

I just watched Crossroads on demand... it was free. I still think steve shredded ralph in the duel but he could have reeled in the dramatic body posturing and facial expressions, I hate that. Anyone who looks like they are in pain when playing a guitar needs to practice more in my opinion. Look straight ahead and DO NOT MOVE.

A little head nod now and then to the drummer or bass player is fine, maybe waving to crowd at the end, but all that, "look, I am an emotional artist struggling to convey my feelings into notes" crap works as well on me as a jedi mind trick works on jabba. I know the person on stage is having fun and making money, cut the theatrics and blaze some more frets with that energy. WE CAME FOR THE MUSIC not your stage antics.

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Feb 12, 2008 11:26am
Forum: noisecollector Subject: Re: Song quality

This was constructive and relevant for almost a couple sentences, thanks. I need some more spacesounds.